In our newest "how can we help you?" thread, "feeling poor" writes:
I feel that UK jobs, starting from like 37k-44k GBP (roughly 45k-54k USD), isn't a lot. At least as the single source of income for a family of four, I don't feel that I can save up to anything. (Bracketing the steep costs for applying for indefinite leave to remain down the track.) Maybe I'm doing something wrong, e.g. having kids too early, and maybe this is something worth taking into consideration for those thinking about having kids.
I'm very grateful for having a job, and I know that I'm extremely lucky compared to my equally qualified peers who are still seeking stability. But I'm feeling the financial pressure, and it is producing a lot of anxiety for me and my partner. (My partner plans to start working once the kids are old enough to go to childcare.)
But here's the general question. Do people who start their first stable (TT or continuing) job in other places of the world feel similar financial stress?
Good question. There were a couple of interesting responses submitted. One reader wrote in:
The UK has a lot of in-work benefits. You probably already know about child benefit, but there are other types of benefits, many of which do not have 100% uptakes by those eligible. Have you met with Citizens' Advice?
But Helen added:
[Y]ou aren't wrong about the UK. I worked early-career in Belgium, the Netherlands, and the UK. My UK salary (no shade on my wonderful employers, Oxford Brookes and University of Oxford) was simply not enough for a reasonable standard of living. Over half my salary as a senior lecturer went up to rent, of a small 75m2 place in the outskirts of Oxford. We had no car, and lived simply, and that was all before the price of living went up after Brexit and with the general inflation in the wake of Covid. I am glad I left in 2019. The Netherlands, an assistant prof salary is much more comfortable (for me it was about 1/3 of rent, and the area around Amsterdam is not a cheap area to live in, no idea how it is now though!) In Belgium I was only ever a postdoc but my impression is the starting salary of an assistant prof there is OK and decent to live on, and there's a clear path of career progression as well as reasonable security. There's been continuous strikes by UK by lecturers, I hope it goes well for them and better terms can be negotiated. In my time in the UK I remember that the unions told us how our salary had basically decreased a lot in real terms since the financial crash of 2008, so UK lecturers feeling the pinch is a fairly recent phenomenon, hopefully still reversible.
I have to confess that I've always wanted to live in the UK, but that the salaries there have deterred me from applying (I've also heard that administrative demands for academics there are very, but that's another issue). I wasn't aware of some of the in-work benefits, including the child benefit, but having just looked it up, it seems pretty meagre. Are there other important benefits to be aware of? If so, what are they? Obviously, state-sponsored health care is a big benefit, but even so, does it compensate for the lower salaries?
It would be great to hear from other readers, particularly readers like Helen who can compare the quality of work and life for academics in the UK to work in academia in other countries. Also, what are financial stresses like in other countries? Obviously, in the US there are other stressors: the high cost of health insurance, the fact that it's not covered for part-time/adjunct faculty, and so on (which, obviously, are serious issues).
Anyone care to weigh in?
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