In our newest "how can we help you?" thread, a reader asks:
How do people get two part papers published?
I have a project developing a new view on a topic that I am finding it difficult to fit into anything like the length of one paper (I would like to turn it into a book, but I don't think that is viable at my career stage). Making the positive case for this view and explaining how it works takes about the length of one paper. And responding to existing criticisms of similar, but distinct views, and showing how the new view avoids them takes about the length of another paper. So it seems sensible to split it into a two part paper (which I have seen, but vary rarely). Something like "Exciting New View, Part 1: The Positive Case" and "Exiting New View, Part 2: Response to Critics".
My question is, how do you go about getting such a pair of papers published? Do you simply submit part 1, with the promise of a part 2 to come? Do you submit both parts at once? Is it just too risky to ask a journal to consider something like this? Does anyone have any experience with publishing a two part paper?
Good questions! Another reader submitted the following reply:
I did something like this. But my path was different. I wrote a paper - my entry into a on-going debate. But by the time I finished the paper, I had a larger line of argument I wanted to develop, which involved addressing objections to the view defended in the first paper. I made no attempt to integrate the two. After the one was accepted for publication, I sent the other to a journal. I DID NOT title them X, Part I, and X, Part II. I think it would have worked against me. But I did publish them in the same journal - 3 years apart. They are almost always cited together when people discuss the view. One is cited 50 times and the other 51. Good luck
Do any other readers have any helpful experiences or insights to share?
One thing I've tried a couple of times is submitting a paper that has a companion piece with a brief mention of this in the paper. This has resulted in reviewer complaints about the issue covered in the companion piece needing more coverage in the submitted paper, though similar complaints didn't arise on other occasions when I submitted those papers without mentioning their companions.
Another thing I've tried is submitting a companion piece as a supplemental document as a proof of its existence in connection with a response to reviewer comments. In that case, the second round of reviewers was different.
The ultimate verdicts were rejections in all these cases, but I don't recall any comments indicating that the companion piece moves were important factors in those verdicts. So I'd be inclined to try these strategies again.
Posted by: a postdoc | 06/16/2023 at 07:56 AM
OP here: perhaps it will help to clarify (in light of these helpful comments) that the reason I think it would be advantageous to do this as a two part paper is that I am worried that the first part will get rejected based on not engaging with the extant objections. I don’t think I can do that well before getting the whole view on the table, but we philosophers do love to object to premise 1 before we even know what the premise 2 is, let alone the conclusion.
So I guess I am interested in specifically what the case where the fact there are two parts is used to allay the fears of the reviewers. Which doesn’t sound like it has gone well for a postdoc at least.
Posted by: Two many things to say | 06/16/2023 at 09:55 AM
I would do one of three things (I had a two-part paper published using the first strategy):
1. Find a way to frame both papers relatively independently of each other. It's not easy, but it's usually doable. In the second paper in my own case, I had a section of ~3 pages where I gave a streamlined version of the argument from the first paper, and then cited it (in a redacted way).
2. Find a way to fit it all into one paper (perhaps long-ish one). I think we're all prone to thinking that unnecessary parts of our papers are in fact necessary (from the level of the sentence to the level of the section even). You could do a practice draft where you get everything down to 12k words, just to see how you would do it. It might reveal that that section you thought was absolutely vital could be made a footnote.
3. Email the editor of a journal you're eyeing and ask if you can submit two papers at once, given that they're related. I've seen journals publish two papers at once, or back to back, where it is very clear (sometimes explicitly so) that the two papers are one project.
Posted by: good luck | 06/16/2023 at 01:30 PM
I've had papers that fit together in ways quite similar to what the OP describes. I would love to hear if others have had success with the third strategy mentioned by "good luck," because that sounds great. But assuming that's not an option, my suggestion is to find a way to make each paper stand on its own. Maybe you could try to publish Part 2 first, but reframe it by saying: here is this mounting set of criticisms against these extant views, which show that we need a new view that has features x, y, z. And maybe: here are some especially exciting further upshots of such a view, but developing the details of the view itself is too much for the present paper. Then you can write what you were calling Part 1, citing the other paper as though it's not your own (for blind review purposes) and showing how your view does have features x, y, and z. Or, you could just argue for the view in Part 1 on its own, and then maybe address 1 or 2 of the objections you think reviewers will wonder about. If it's a strong paper and you get the right referees, hopefully you'd get an R&R where they ask you to respond to a finite number of other objections.
Posted by: Similar | 06/16/2023 at 02:21 PM
I followed good luck's #3 once, with a good specialist journal, and received a helpful reply from the editor. They suggested to flag up in the submission that and why I feel I need to go over their word limit. Reviewers would then be asked to assess whether double length (or whatever) is warranted. I took this to mean that the editor/reviewers wanted to see the whole thing first and only if they liked all of it, deal with how to split it up (if at all). I didn't go for it (for unrelated reasons), but if I were in the same situation I'd asked the editors again.
Posted by: r53 | 06/16/2023 at 04:23 PM