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It is ridiculous that such a journal exists. I know a few journals that are like that, I never submit my work to them and I do not review for them. These journals do not provide doi numbers for accepted papers until months or years from the acceptance, which means that if someone cites those papers, citations might not appear in Google scholar, Scopus or Web of Science. You should contact the editor and ask what is taking so long, it should not take more than a couple of weeks to receive proofs (even though some slow journals offer proofs quickly the papers do not appear online in months).


One time for me the elapsed time between article acceptance and receipt of proofs was eight months. The contact person for proofs didn't respond to two of my inquiries, then eventually sent me the proofs and asked for them back in 3 days or so.

Unless your job or grants you apply to are really worried about your Google Scholar-logged citations, though, it doesn't really matter. Just list it on your CV as accepted and put the manuscript on PhilPapers, and a decent number of people will still know about the paper.

Phil Osopher

I guarantee OP is talking about [redacted]. I have exactly the same issue… The response I received from the editor suggested they weren't taking the issue very seriously. Very surprising, to say the least.

It would be nice to know what's going on. "Papers are published as they are accepted" is not an accurate description of how it is currently run, which I tactfully pointed out, but received no reply.

*Moderator's note: I have edited out the journal name here, as I don't think it's in alignment with this blog's mission to speculate openly about who may or may not be guilty of what (viz. an online rumor mill). Readers may of course make their own inferences based on general information provided--but I think that out of respect for this blog's mission, it should be left at that.


I have a similar issue as the commenter above with the same journal (I can tell which journal it is given the description). I was told that I will not hear about proofs before September. (My paper was accepted in March.)

By the way, one of the managing editors of that journal recently commented on DailyNous on this issue, saying: "Very sorry about this. The publication process slowed down significantly in the past year. There is a hopeful development on this front, which is that the publishers are implementing a new system that should greatly speed up the process. We are hoping our current backlog will be cleared up pretty soon as a result."

If this is the journal the OP is having problems with, then they allow uploading preprints, as far as I can tell.

Marcus Arvan

ehz: problem solved, then. Sounds like the journal is working on it, and if they allow preprints to be posted, that's great!


From what I can tell, there are two issues here. One is: how long does it take for the publisher to get proofs? The second is: will the paper appear online first before an issue?

Some publishers, like Springer, get proofs to authors very quickly. And they also publish online first. So if the journal is published by Springer, then the time line between acceptances and online might be as short as two weeks. Other publishers do the same thing but are slower (e.g. Cambridge). Other journals might not publish online first and might not have a quick proof team. In those cases, you might have a to wait a long time. In fact, if the journal is behind--so that a paper accepted in 2021 will be issued in 2022--it might even be a year.

Lydia Patton

Hi, this is Lydia Patton from HOPOS. We try to put papers online as preprints, with a DOI, as soon as possible after acceptance. There have been delays over the past year for a number of reasons, for which I apologize.

Here is the page with our preprints: https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/toc/hopos/0/ja Authors can also post their own copy of the accepted version on their own website, or an institutional repository or preprint server, immediately. (See: https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/journals/hopos/jrnl_rights)

This thread has prompted me to put renewed effort into making the timeline between acceptance and posting online as swift as possible. I want to thank you for reminding me of the many excellent reasons why it is crucial to post work as soon as possible.

Best wishes, Lydia

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