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02/17/2020

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Paul Moloney

Great to hear about the philosophical atmosphere in Turkey!

Bill Wringe

Thanks for this informative post, Saniye. As someone who is currently going through the promotion process in Turkey, there are a couple of things that may be worth saying that may make things seem a bit less daunting (and perhaps also help anyone who is already here).

One is that although it can take a fair bit of time to get one's degree certificates certified as being equivalent to their Turkish counterparts, there's no need to wait until one has satisfied the other requirements for promotion before doing so. (In fact, if you think you will be working in Turkey for a while, there's no reason not to start this process as soon as you are settled here.)

A second is that although there are indeed two sets of requirements to meet, this isn't so different from many other systems. One way of thinking of the state requirement - called the docentlik - is that it's analogous to a German 'habilitation'. And again, you can apply for it as soon as you meet the requirements: while a good university will have further requirements for promotion to associate professor, you don't need to wait to satisfy those requirements before applying for your docentlik. (It's probably also worth saying that anyone who is a reasonably research active philosopher should find themselves meeting these requirements more or less as a matter of course: certainly anyone who had a plausible case for tenure in the US would be likely to meet them quite quickly.)

In short - the system is a bit cumbersome, but (as someone who has grumbled about it a fair bit) I'm not convinced it's significantly worse - at least in my own institution - than similar processes elsewhere.

Bill Wringe

While I'm here - there certainly are foreign philosophers who have had jobs here for 10 years: I'm one of them! In fact, I've been here since 2000, and there are at least a couple of colleagues who have been part of the anglophone philosophy community for longer than that.

It can really be an excellent place to pursue a philosophical career: during the time I've been here, I've turned down two continuing posts in the UK on the grounds that in terms of pay, conditions, and overall quality of life, I was better of here than I would be there. (Now, that is partly influenced by 'two-body problem' concerns and the fact that my wife is an EU national, but that's far from being the whole story.)

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