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08/13/2018

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Anon

Once these start accumulating multiple pages, is there a way to easily get to the most recent comments? Last year I found myself clicking "next" a million times. Thank you! :)

Marcus Arvan

Anon: Unfortunately, there does not seem to be any way to do that. What I have done is now set each comment thread to allow up to 100 comments per page.

That should reduce the number of times people have to click "next." You can also always just copy the URL of the most recent comments page to a note on your desktop and then paste it in to go directly to that page. Hope this helps!

E

Any news on UNC?

Ian

The Lawrence University job seems to be gone. Does anyone know what happened? Did they come up with a short list by the end of August and close the thing to further applications? Was the search canceled? Something else?

Recent Grad

I'm also curious about Lawrence. The job was for *this year,* though it didn't specify that in the philjobs ad. Maybe it wasn't really an open search and all along the department planned to do an inside hire? The time table just seems too compressed for a genuinely open search.

Ian

The job was for this year? Jeez. I never even realized that. I'm feeling pretty foolish right now--I'd been quite excited about that job, but hadn't recognized that it was an impossibility for me.

Justin

Did anyone else apply to the Uworld position that was advertised on PhilJobs? Does anyone know if they have hired a philosopher for the position?

Job seeker

Quick rejection from Bard.

Anon

Does anyone have clarification on Bard? I didn't get the rejection email, though I was definitely not the candidate supposedly chosen.

Anon

I think someone would have to email them to really get clarification. Maybe the search is done, maybe the not-rejected are on some sort of long list, maybe something else.

Anon

They have scheduled Skype interviews!

Michel

I think they meant that they've drawn up a short list, but they didn't bother to change their rejection email from last year so it still says they've hired someone.

Tom

Anyone know anything about the Munich logic job?

Job Market for first time

There doesn't seem to be a jobmarket wiki this year, so let's start this thread up again. Anyone hear anything from Villanova? Brandeis? Reno?

Applicant

Did anyone else receive a form letter from Gonzaga asking that you make sure letters are uploaded by Friday?

Yet another applicant

To applicant: yes, I did. Interfolio and their peopleadmin site say that the letters have been sent to them already. So, I think it is just an automated thing.

Recent PHD

Did anyone receive an email from Clark University asking for a teaching dossier? As I recall, the job ad didn't ask for this. But they seem to be asking for it now. Perhaps I'm mistaken.

Arsene

My sense is that the open Kant position at the University of Memphis is an inside hire: they have a visiting Kant specialist from Penn State. My sense is the same about the open Contemporary/Continental position at Vassar: they, too, have a VAP whose credentials closely fit the job description.

Marcus Arvan

Arsene: I would really encourage job-candidates *not* to get hung up on which jobs look like 'inside hires.'

I knew of a number of cases during my time on the market where the 'inside candidate'--someone who looked like they were a shoo-in for the position--didn't get the job. I also have some very real (ahem!) inside knowledge of why inside candidates are sometimes passed over!

I think you might be surprised at just how committed search committees typically are to hiring the person who they think is the very best for the job. Indeed, here is how I have seen and heard things often go: the committee does have an initial preference for the 'inside candidate.' Then, however, Skype interviews occur and the committee becomes enamored with someone *else*. Whereas the inside candidate is a 'known quantity', the committee begins to wonder whether some outsider candidates they are enamored with would be an even better hire. Then, for one reason or another--including a spectacular on-campus visit by an outsider--the committee might pass over the insider.

Over the years, I've heard many stories of this sort of thing happening--and I had first-hand experience with something pretty close to it.

Another Round

Recent PhD, yes, I got that request also. The ad didn't ask for it, but the way the request was phrased made it seem like I had forgotten to include something that they had already requested. I think they had meant to ask for it, but didn't.

Recent PHD

Another Round, thanks!

J

I didn't get that request from Clark, and (like you) I hadn't submitted a teaching dossier, since it wasn't requested. I reckon this means I didn't make some initial cut. Maybe you did, though--in which case, congrats and good luck!

Arsene

Marcus Arvan: Thank you for your response. I agree with all you say: an "inside candidate" is not necessarily a sure or guaranteed hire. I have had firsthand experience with this as well, and have seen it go both ways: the "insider" walks through the hire without second thought and the "insider" who does not get the job because of exceptional first- and second-round interviews by an outside candidate. However, I am a proponent of being optimistically realistic. I find that departments are more risk-averse than in the past - even in just the past 3-5 years. A "known quantity" in a VAP is safer than the risk of offering the position to someone who may/may not take it, or, who may/may not stay. Losing a candidate these days, given budgetary constraints, might mean losing a line. Thanks for your thoughts, though: part of my optimistic realism is optimism.

Anon Prof

Seconding what Marcus says about not getting hung up on inside hires. I'm at a department hiring this year, and we are hiring in an AOS that we happen to have a postdoc in this year. We also have have a visiting professor in this area this year, and a former, amazing TT professor in this area who wants to come back. None of them are getting first-round interviews, and whoever does get the job will have no direct connections to us whatsoever. I have seen similar situations at two previous departments, and only in one case did the "inside person" get the offer (in one other case, the "inside person" did get a flyout and did eventually get the offer, but only after the first-choice candidate turned down the offer).

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