Justin Weinberg wrote an interesting post today at Daily Nous on "invite-only and clique-y conferences." The post was a response to a bunch of questions that have arisen recently on journal practices, networking, and merit. Basically, a lot of people--myself included--have worries about how meritocratic our discipline is (or, rather, isn't). There have, for instance, been some disturbing revelations recently about journal practices--about how some journals do not appear to respect anonymized review, engage in favoritism, etc. A new study just came out showing prestige bias in hiring. Finally--and this is the subject of Justin's post--some have suggested that certain conferences provide an unfair leg-up to friends of people in important places.
I have to confess that I'm a bit surprised that Justin's post hasn't generated a bit more uptake (it has only received four comments). In part, I'm surprised because (A) I find Justin's analysis puzzling, and (B) the issue seems to me to be an important one. Let me begin with (A). Justin writes:
My view is that conferences are sufficiently different from journals, such that the reasons for wanting nearly all professional journals to work via anonymous review do not cleanly apply to conferences. Rather, when it comes to conferences, all that is needed is a sufficient number of high quality conferences so that everyone has a decent shot at going to “enough.” This can be accomplished by having some conferences that operate largely according to anonymous review, such as the American Philosophical Association (APA) meetings and others, but can also be accomplished by increasing the number of conferences, even ones that are invite-only or do not use anonymous review.
Justin then gives several grounds in support of his view. He writes:
- Access to publishing opportunities in a journal is much more important for a philosopher’s career than opportunities to present papers at conferences, and so it is much more important that access to publishing in journals not be denied to those who don’t know the right people.
- There are many conferences—more and more high quality ones each year, it seems, and they are easier to put on compared to starting a new journal. So, if the proliferation of new opportunities mitigates the unfairness of access to existing opportunities, then such mitigation is easier when it comes to conferences than journals.
- Journals just need a good paper from you. At conferences you are there for more than just your paper. You are there as a speaker. You are there as a listener and commenter and questioner in other people’s sessions. You are there to talk philosophy outside the sessions, during meals or other events. To some extent, you are there to be social. In general, you are there to help the conference be a worthwhile experience for those involved. Anonymous reviews of papers tell conference organizers only about the quality of your paper. The importance of the various roles you’ll play at a conference besides “author of paper” varies according to the aims of the organizers, but it does not seem unreasonable for the organizers, to some extent, to deviate from strict anonymous review in order to achieve such aims.
Okay, but here are my concerns.
My concern with rationale (1) is that I think--properly understood--it is internally inconsistent. Journal publications are surely intrinsically more important for a person's career success than conference presentations. But here is the problem: networking at conferences may substantially increase one's publishing prospects--and in several ways. First, you may get feedback from really sharp, top-flight people. Second, those people may well turn out to be your reviewers should you submit to a top journal (and, as recent discussions of journal practices have made plain, there are few, if any, widely accepted practices for disclosing/preventing conflicts of interest). So, if the first part of Justin's rationale is correct--if publications are super-important--then the latter half (conference presentations are not so important) is false. Presenting work at top-flight conferences with a really sharp, in-group of people may (may!) substantially increase one's access to the former (publishing)!
My concern with (2) is a bit different. Justin's claim here is that as long as there are plenty of conferences to go around, there's no real harm, no foul with in-group conferences. But now consider an analogy. Suppose you worked at a corporation and although there were a good number of career-advancement opportunities, there were nevertheless special annual "workshops" for sons, daughters, and friends of The Boss. And suppose that on top of that, those sons, daughters, and loved ones tended to get promoted more often. I take it the run-of-the-mill employee wouldn't say, "Ah, well that's okay. There are plenty of opportunities for others!" At least, I hope they wouldn't say that. Favoritism is favoritism--and, I want to say, in a professional context we should aim to minimize it. Insofar as we work in a competitive environment--one where there are nowhere near enough jobs for qualified applicants--I want to suggest we have a duty to one another, and particularly those in vulnerable career positions, to aim to promote meritocratic practices where we can. And, I submit, we should do it everywhere: with journal practices, conference practices, etc.
My concerns about Justin's third rationale are similar. That rationale, again, is that, "The importance of the various roles you’ll play at a conference besides “author of paper” varies according to the aims of the organizers, but it does not seem unreasonable for the organizers, to some extent, to deviate from strict anonymous review in order to achieve such aims." Fair enough--but I'm not sure how being friends with people and having in-group connections is reasonable given the many ways in which our discipline already fails to approximate a meritocracy.
More broadly, I want to say that given (1) how competitive academia is, (2) how many people are in vulnerable career positions, and (3) recent revelations about how non-meritocratic academia appears to be, we have professional obligations to take active steps to combat favoritism and conflicts of interest wherever these things arise: in journal review processes, in hiring, and yes, in terms of conferences.
Or so say I. What say you? I'm happy to reconsider my position...if you have a good argument! :)
Here is another important difference between conferences and journals that ought to be noted: it is not uncommon for conference organizers to compensate at least some attendees for at least some of the cost of travel. Needless to say, conference organizers have a finite pool of resources to draw upon, and depending on one's location some potential attendees will cost (much) more to invite than others.
So, it is not uncommon that conference organizers simply can't invite some predetermined # of participants selected by anonymous review -- that is, without risking going wildly over budget, or being forced to substantially lower the # of invited participants. That seems to me a good reason why conference organizers (at least in these cases) should not be expected to do so.
[For some reason I cannot fathom, the post above was not approved by Justin at Daily Nous. So perhaps the reason there isn't more discussion over there has less to do with the interest/importance of the topic, and more to do with whatever's going on in Justin's head.]
Posted by: A frequent conference organizer | 02/17/2015 at 01:50 AM
Hi Marcus. Thanks for your feedback on my view. I posted a response in the comments at DN but thought I should share them here, too.
Regarding point 1, above, you say: “Journal publications are surely intrinsically more important for a person’s career success than conference presentations. But here is the problem: networking at conferences may substantially increase one’s publishing prospects.” Yes, it is true that giving a paper at a conference sometimes makes it more likely that the paper will get published, for various reasons. The relevant question here is: what is the marginal difference that access to invite-only or cliquey conferences (as opposed to “fair” conferences) makes to one’s access to publication opportunities? I don’t have data on this, but my hunch is that the answer is “very little.” Getting evidence for this is complicated but here is one rough approach: find out what percentage of articles in good journals were first presented at invite-only or cliquey conferences. My guess would be that that percentage is quite small. That suggests that there are plenty of publishing opportunities access to which is not limited to papers previously presented at the types of conferences under discussion here. Now one might say that the relevant question is instead: what percentage of papers given at these types of conferences end up published in good journals, compared to papers given at “fair” conferences? Here, I would bet that the former percentage is noticeably higher. But we can’t infer from this the causal relationship between “presenting a paper at an invite-only or cliquey conference” and publishing the paper in a good journal because it could be that the people at these conferences, on average, write better papers than the people, on average, who only attend “fair” conferences.
Regarding point 2, you say that it isn’t enough that there are plenty of other conferences and that people can plan their own. “Favoritism is favoritism—and, I want to say, in a professional context we should aim to minimize it…. I want to suggest we have a duty to one another, and particularly those in vulnerable career positions, to aim to promote meritocratic practices where we can. And, I submit, we should do it everywhere: with journal practices, conference practices, etc.” I think that if we have a duty to minimize favoritism in professional contexts (which I think is a bit more tractable than the duty “to promote meritocratic practices” so let’s leave that aside), the strength of that duty would vary with the extent to which such favoritism contributes to importantly bad outcomes. The more an act of favoritism contributes to such outcomes, the stronger our duty to not engage in that act. If I’m right in the previous paragraph, holding a conference in which some or all of the attendees are selected by something other than anonymous review, in a context in which there are plenty of other conferences (fair, invite only, whatever), makes little difference to the relevant outcomes, and so the duty is weak and could be trumped by other considerations (such as the ones I mention in point 3 in the OP).
Let me add one more point. I would not be surprised if the organizers of invite-only or cliquey conferences have a quasi-libertarian defense in mind, even if they wouldn’t put it that way (perhaps putting it that way will get them to change their minds!). It goes something like this: if, through my hard work and successes, I am able to acquire funding that allows me to put on a small conference each year (say, I win a grant, or negotiate it as part of a job or retention offer), and I will be the one to go to the trouble of organizing it, isn’t there something to the thought that I should be allowed to invite whomever I want, provided that they are qualified? If I couldn’t do that, maybe I would be less inclined to put the conference on at all. It’s not as if I am required to put on conferences! I think that this line of thinking has some appeal, and in practice gets thrown into the mix along with other considerations, such as balance and fairness. Allowing such discretion might indeed result in a greater and more diverse set of conferences, and that could be good for the profession overall, even if some of the conferences are invite-only.
Posted by: Justin Weinberg | 02/17/2015 at 08:57 AM
Marcus and Justin, I can understand Justin's last comment and ---being myself involved in the organisation of many conferences--- also the concern expressed in the first comment.
Personally, what *I* do in order to balance both sides of the problem is that I try to contact personally a few people who might be interested in participating and who would really contribute to the topic and *then* publish a CfP (as I did on this blog some days back) which is specific enough to attract just interested people and not just anyone who wants to have one more conference in his or her cv. Moreover, I try to avoid "care-free" conferences (if one wants to participate to a conference I organise, he or she will be "forced" to engage in long skype discussions with me concerning the issues to be touched in her talk, send a draft well in advance and the like). This automatically turns away many potential appicants.
Posted by: Elisa Freschi | 02/17/2015 at 10:24 AM
One of my worries about conferences is different, but this may be a good place to discuss it. Rather than conferences being cliquey (some of which undoubtedly are), my worry is that many conferences rely on the participation of junior people who may receive no job market benefits as a result. Here I am thinking of conferences strictly in terms of benefits that presenters may receive and not what benefits presenters may confer to others. I have multiple conference presentations, including three at the APA and several at specialty conferences. This has netted me virtually no job market success, in part, I suspect, because conference presentations have turned out to be valueless on a CV. (I also have multiple pubs, which have also not gotten me very far in the job hunt.) But if conference presentations have no intrinsic worth on a CV, then all of the value lies in the network possibilities and feedback from audiences, which is a crap shoot. Some conferences (especially specialty conferences, which are comprised of people working in the same area) do not present opportunities for networking, since the people who will be on hiring committees were not in attendance at the conference or are inaccessible, even if they are there. And audience feedback can be anything from helpful to worthless to harmful. Yet, many conferences rely on there being submissions from junior people. Add to this the considerable travel costs associated with going to conferences and it looks like focusing on conference activity is a bad gamble for those who need a job. So, on the one hand, presenting at a conference might be without practical value for junior presenters, while, on the other hand, these conferences rely heavily on junior people submitting and presenting. Conferences then become part of the adjunctification of the discipline--relying on those who are giving cheap labor without significant return on the labor. A simple solution would be to weight more heavily conference presentations when it comes to job searches--especially "prestigious" conferences, like the APA. Until this happens, junior people should think deeply about whether they want to perpetuate this phenomenon by submitting papers to conferences.
Posted by: Scott Clifton | 02/17/2015 at 02:29 PM
Scott: Sorry to take so long to reply. I'm going to discuss your comment in a new post, if that's okay!
Posted by: Marcus Arvan | 02/20/2015 at 01:11 PM
Of course, Marcus! I'm interested to hear your thoughts!
Posted by: Scott Clifton | 02/20/2015 at 02:22 PM
I worry about the notion of networking that is assumed here, especially by those getting a little cynical. I am further in my career, and some of the best networking experiences I had at conferences when I had contingent positions (not TT), were with my cohort peers. One person in particular who I met 15 years ago is still an enormous support for me, even though we see each other in person only every few years. We read each other's work, and we have profoundly influenced each others' thinking on the issues we write about.
Posted by: one worry | 02/20/2015 at 03:18 PM